These companies hoovered up trillions in tax breaks, subsidies, and other types of corporate welfare based largely on the lie that they are 'job creators'. And they do shit like this...
This is why there never should have been another round of tax breaks. Government should only do those on the condition that companies are going to use the extra money to create jobs/hire people, make society better.
AI isn’t an innovation. It’s a cost-cutting measure, a cheap substitute. It doesn’t produce anything new - and in the long run, it’s not even cheaper. So I have no idea what they’re doing, but the government shouldn’t be shoveling out $4.5 trillion that only goes to a handful of people, it’s evil.
And, by the way, Ai doesn’t work well. I run into it every time I call a company for help. It takes me way more time and if you don’t use the words they have incorporated into their spiel, you get nowhere. I’m glad I’m 81 and won’t have to live with this much longer. Funny how in my life communication went from letters and telegrams to telex to email to text and now … a “machine”.
History repeats itself especially when it comes to corporate greed and disregard for Americans who do the work to make the country run. Why do we tolerate it when other countries do not?
I was laid off in August 2025 and I can absolutely confirm that I’m spending a fraction of what I was spending while I was working. And I’m just one person but get enough of us, good luck. That’s how you crash an economy. When i finally do get a job, I don’t plan on going back to my old habits. I’ll be saving every penny I can.
Well now that their sadly unemployed they can start protesting with the rest of us against this regime.... RESIST REVOLT REVOLUTION MILLIONS STRONG MARCHING ON THE STREETS LOUDLY SHOUTING OUR GRIEVANCES...
That’s what is always forgotten. It’s everyday people spending their hard earned pay that makes the economy work. Not giving tax breaks to the rich. That’s just money in the bank.
Robber Barons, what are you doing to help your employer? How fast would you leave for more pay? What have you invented? Won for the company? Done to help without asking. Everyones a victim today so dont be surprised when you are treated like one.
…and once their savings account is empty they’ll be competing with you for your job. Because not only has their job gone but so has the career in an industry they built and relied on.
Not all of them, especially the ones with a multigenerational family to support. These are also the people with the disposable income that drives the economy. Less people to buy stuff from corporate warlords. We shall see …
Well, I will say something that I said earlier on a post that I shared regarding this layoff. Businesses layoff laborers, workers to increase profit margin for bonuses and buybacks. They do not just lay off people during hard times. And we know Oracle isn’t experiencing hard times because they’ve had record profits over the last year. Companies layoff people to increase profits so they can increase CEO and C suite salaries bonuses and buybacks. Welcome to the Gilded Age and every decade after. Welcome to the Janus law of 2018 that weakened unions.
I’ve worked for Oracle and while they can be a good employer, in my experience they are absolutely conscienceless to their employees and customers. They’re betting big on AI and I think they - like a lot of others - are going to regret that bet.
AI is a train wreck that took the internet back 20 years. It’s not an innovation. It’s a cost-cutting measure by companies that promised too much, drained investors, and now can’t deliver anything new. Companies that are growing or have anything big on the horizon = don’t do massive layoffs. And now the ship is sinking so fast that even $8 trillion in tax breaks over the last decade isn’t going to save it from going down. A lot of these companies are already hanging on by a thread from subsidies.
These guys have ripped off investors, customers, and employees for over a decade and they still don’t have jack shit new coming. They’re panicking. AI is a sign of that panic. It’s half-assed and already shows signs of collapse. They’ve also shown their hand too quick and encouraged a new generation of Americans to stay out of tech, which will actually keep the real “new thing” from ever being made. Mankind is so good at destroying everything good it builds.
Common story. Some sales people do very well at Oracle, but it’s a matter of luck more than anything. I came into Oracle (first time) through the Sun acquisition, and what Oracle did to Sun customers, partners and employees was unconscionable.
Signing an email "Oracle Leadership" with no individual name is a detail that says a lot. When a company cannot put a human name on something this significant, it tells you how they view the people on the receiving end.
Old retired IT guy here. They love you when they need you, and when they don’t…well, you’d better have a plan B ready to roll. It’s always been that way in my experience starting in the mid 80’s. Of course, the layoffs look sweet on the next quarterly reports and the next earnings call.
After that, unless they’ve been really smart about it, they’ll start discovering that the things those laid off folks were doing didn’t go away. And then come the consultants, temps, and outsourcing and the costs go right back up and higher. A problem that was routinely solved in-house suddenly costs twice as much for an outside contractor. And the work will never be quite as good because that contractor is gone and has no investment in the future of that system. More for less down the road.
Watched this happen over and over at various orgs large and small. The lure of short term gain is irresistible to management. Kick the can down the road. I’ll have failed up into some new role by then and some other poor sap can take the hit.
Many of these workers will never find another job that pays close to what they were making. What happens to the value of the million dollar homes these tech workers own? What about the people hoping to fund their retirement by selling their homes? I saw it in the Bay Area in 2008. I’d never met anyone who lost their home to foreclosure before then. By 2010, I personally knew three families in my neighborhood who did.
My husband worked 17 years for HMO Kaiser Permanente. They were not struggling but used the recession as an excuse to get rid of older workers. He saw his exact job description posted within two weeks, as did many others. A lot of those jobs went to foreign workers on H-1B visas. They were younger, cheaper, and since the company controlled their right to stay in the country, easily exploited.
In one family, both parents worked for Kaiser and were laid off at the same time. They killed themselves and their children. My family went through hell. My husband was out of work for three years and our retirement savings were cut in half. Our son is still suffering from the trauma of those years. The ripple effect of corporate greed is widespread and goes on long after the layoff occurs.
A friend’s former wife was an HR executive there at the time. She wasn’t even a VP and she made $400,000 a http://year.My
http://year.My husband worked in a building where all the conference rooms were named after old time movie cowboys. His group was laid off in the Hop Along Cassidy room. It doesn’t get much crueler than that.
Recent study from MIT showed that AI adaptation in companies has over 90% failure rate because without sufficient human oversight, AI makes A LOT of mistakes. I honestly hope that all lf those corporations firing people left and right fall and go bankrupt when their AI takes over pr creates destruction beyond repair.
That's why we need to replace capitalism and tactics billionaires and corporations out of exostance.... they're parasites.
The thing is the number of humans necessary for the oversight is significantly less than the number of humans to do the work. The Oracle layoffs are less than 20% of the workforce it’s fairly reasonable to think that 80% of the workforce working in tandem with AI can absolutely be more efficient than 100% of the previous workforce. Even with a 90% failure rate that 10% success rate will drive the uptake and over time the success rate will improve. This is just the beginning of the AI related layoffs and it’s well past the time for us to plan accordingly both on individual and communal levels.
It's not surprising this happens as the comments show people on here have no clue how the reality they live in works. Oracle doesn't need customers They have your tax money, no questions asked. It's literally a CIA founded company.So that they could do illegal things that the government regulations don't allow them to.Your government doesn't care about you.
Oracle hasn’t had customers for years - they have hostages. The customer lock in on the main Oracle database products is that tight (and the product is that good, apparently).
So no surprise that they treat everything as a “how much $ can we get out of you today?” situation.
I have a friend (PC) who worked on contract for Novartis USA a few years ago. PC was in IT strategic sourcing and contracts. He and another FTE manager were both disgusted with Oracle--'intransigent'--and through various ways, and with management approval, gradually got rid of Oracle not only in the US but later global Novartis took the same tack. Year 1 loss to Oracle was close to a billion--14 years ago.
I’m not even vaguely attached to the tech industry and even I know this discussion has been happening for at least a decade. I’m not sure why this is somehow shocking or unpredictable. I mean Elon Musk recently predicted that human physicians will be mostly out of work in ten years so how are people in jobs that are obviously and easily performed by AI surprised?
I was laid off from my job two weeks ago after my position was eliminated. In my case, it was via a Teams meeting with my incompetent manager and an HR representative. I think I would have rather been let go via email than have to sit through a manager I did not respect stiffly reading a prepared script.
wild to see oracle cut 30k by email the same day they reported 95% jump in net income. this is exactly what the q1 2026 data showed, 55% of companies citing ai as the driver but the financials don't suggest distress at all
As a retired labor/employment lawyer, you've done a really good job of explaining their rights. The extra time for people over 40 is often forgotten. Severence contracts can be voided if you don't provide for that.
This is beyond devastating! I have a three year old. When is my company going to do this to me?! Why are we allowing these data centers to be built. Our country has gone insane! 😣
These companies hoovered up trillions in tax breaks, subsidies, and other types of corporate welfare based largely on the lie that they are 'job creators'. And they do shit like this...
This is why there never should have been another round of tax breaks. Government should only do those on the condition that companies are going to use the extra money to create jobs/hire people, make society better.
AI isn’t an innovation. It’s a cost-cutting measure, a cheap substitute. It doesn’t produce anything new - and in the long run, it’s not even cheaper. So I have no idea what they’re doing, but the government shouldn’t be shoveling out $4.5 trillion that only goes to a handful of people, it’s evil.
And, by the way, Ai doesn’t work well. I run into it every time I call a company for help. It takes me way more time and if you don’t use the words they have incorporated into their spiel, you get nowhere. I’m glad I’m 81 and won’t have to live with this much longer. Funny how in my life communication went from letters and telegrams to telex to email to text and now … a “machine”.
History repeats itself especially when it comes to corporate greed and disregard for Americans who do the work to make the country run. Why do we tolerate it when other countries do not?
Because we are a semi-capitalist country. What other countries are you referencing? Communist China, Vietnam?
Corporations are not people (Unless you are John Robert's) The stock holders own Oracle. Its job is to produce a product and make a profit.
Oracle and any other business (Private or Public) were never designed with employing people as their number one goal.
I think it sucks they cut that many employees. But that's the way the world works.
You are free to choose a different business model with your money.
Well, that's 30 thousand people who won't be buying anything beyond groceries. Good job, robber barons, that'll certainly help the economy.
Their economy, and our economy, are two very different things.
I was laid off in August 2025 and I can absolutely confirm that I’m spending a fraction of what I was spending while I was working. And I’m just one person but get enough of us, good luck. That’s how you crash an economy. When i finally do get a job, I don’t plan on going back to my old habits. I’ll be saving every penny I can.
Well now that their sadly unemployed they can start protesting with the rest of us against this regime.... RESIST REVOLT REVOLUTION MILLIONS STRONG MARCHING ON THE STREETS LOUDLY SHOUTING OUR GRIEVANCES...
That’s what is always forgotten. It’s everyday people spending their hard earned pay that makes the economy work. Not giving tax breaks to the rich. That’s just money in the bank.
Robber Barons, what are you doing to help your employer? How fast would you leave for more pay? What have you invented? Won for the company? Done to help without asking. Everyones a victim today so dont be surprised when you are treated like one.
…and once their savings account is empty they’ll be competing with you for your job. Because not only has their job gone but so has the career in an industry they built and relied on.
Not my job, it pays too little. I am a mere peasant.
Not all of them, especially the ones with a multigenerational family to support. These are also the people with the disposable income that drives the economy. Less people to buy stuff from corporate warlords. We shall see …
Well, I will say something that I said earlier on a post that I shared regarding this layoff. Businesses layoff laborers, workers to increase profit margin for bonuses and buybacks. They do not just lay off people during hard times. And we know Oracle isn’t experiencing hard times because they’ve had record profits over the last year. Companies layoff people to increase profits so they can increase CEO and C suite salaries bonuses and buybacks. Welcome to the Gilded Age and every decade after. Welcome to the Janus law of 2018 that weakened unions.
I’ve worked for Oracle and while they can be a good employer, in my experience they are absolutely conscienceless to their employees and customers. They’re betting big on AI and I think they - like a lot of others - are going to regret that bet.
AI is a train wreck that took the internet back 20 years. It’s not an innovation. It’s a cost-cutting measure by companies that promised too much, drained investors, and now can’t deliver anything new. Companies that are growing or have anything big on the horizon = don’t do massive layoffs. And now the ship is sinking so fast that even $8 trillion in tax breaks over the last decade isn’t going to save it from going down. A lot of these companies are already hanging on by a thread from subsidies.
These guys have ripped off investors, customers, and employees for over a decade and they still don’t have jack shit new coming. They’re panicking. AI is a sign of that panic. It’s half-assed and already shows signs of collapse. They’ve also shown their hand too quick and encouraged a new generation of Americans to stay out of tech, which will actually keep the real “new thing” from ever being made. Mankind is so good at destroying everything good it builds.
I have nothing but horror stories about working in Oracle’s sales department. So many friends of mine got screwed over.
Common story. Some sales people do very well at Oracle, but it’s a matter of luck more than anything. I came into Oracle (first time) through the Sun acquisition, and what Oracle did to Sun customers, partners and employees was unconscionable.
I feel you Danny. I was in sales for 12 years and it was a Nightmare! Worst place i ever worked at.
Betting on AI is one thing. Expecting it replace 30,000 employees within the next five years would be just plain stupid.
Shows how little experience their senior management actually has with using AI. Way over their skis.
Signing an email "Oracle Leadership" with no individual name is a detail that says a lot. When a company cannot put a human name on something this significant, it tells you how they view the people on the receiving end.
The email was written by AI, that's why!
or they rightfully fear another luigi coming for them
That is truly a DA remark, that POS murdered a human being, no matter if you liked him or agreed with his job it was vile evil and WRONG!
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In America, very possible
Good information at the end of the article about what to do if this happens to you. And if you’re in the industry, sounds like it just might
Old retired IT guy here. They love you when they need you, and when they don’t…well, you’d better have a plan B ready to roll. It’s always been that way in my experience starting in the mid 80’s. Of course, the layoffs look sweet on the next quarterly reports and the next earnings call.
After that, unless they’ve been really smart about it, they’ll start discovering that the things those laid off folks were doing didn’t go away. And then come the consultants, temps, and outsourcing and the costs go right back up and higher. A problem that was routinely solved in-house suddenly costs twice as much for an outside contractor. And the work will never be quite as good because that contractor is gone and has no investment in the future of that system. More for less down the road.
Watched this happen over and over at various orgs large and small. The lure of short term gain is irresistible to management. Kick the can down the road. I’ll have failed up into some new role by then and some other poor sap can take the hit.
Many of these workers will never find another job that pays close to what they were making. What happens to the value of the million dollar homes these tech workers own? What about the people hoping to fund their retirement by selling their homes? I saw it in the Bay Area in 2008. I’d never met anyone who lost their home to foreclosure before then. By 2010, I personally knew three families in my neighborhood who did.
My husband worked 17 years for HMO Kaiser Permanente. They were not struggling but used the recession as an excuse to get rid of older workers. He saw his exact job description posted within two weeks, as did many others. A lot of those jobs went to foreign workers on H-1B visas. They were younger, cheaper, and since the company controlled their right to stay in the country, easily exploited.
In one family, both parents worked for Kaiser and were laid off at the same time. They killed themselves and their children. My family went through hell. My husband was out of work for three years and our retirement savings were cut in half. Our son is still suffering from the trauma of those years. The ripple effect of corporate greed is widespread and goes on long after the layoff occurs.
KP is one of the worst offenders, in business and in medicine... bordering on criminalty.
To say they operate with depraved indifference would be to understate their regard for anything but money.
A friend’s former wife was an HR executive there at the time. She wasn’t even a VP and she made $400,000 a year.
A friend’s former wife was an HR executive there at the time. She wasn’t even a VP and she made $400,000 a http://year.My
http://year.My husband worked in a building where all the conference rooms were named after old time movie cowboys. His group was laid off in the Hop Along Cassidy room. It doesn’t get much crueler than that.
Recent study from MIT showed that AI adaptation in companies has over 90% failure rate because without sufficient human oversight, AI makes A LOT of mistakes. I honestly hope that all lf those corporations firing people left and right fall and go bankrupt when their AI takes over pr creates destruction beyond repair.
That's why we need to replace capitalism and tactics billionaires and corporations out of exostance.... they're parasites.
The thing is the number of humans necessary for the oversight is significantly less than the number of humans to do the work. The Oracle layoffs are less than 20% of the workforce it’s fairly reasonable to think that 80% of the workforce working in tandem with AI can absolutely be more efficient than 100% of the previous workforce. Even with a 90% failure rate that 10% success rate will drive the uptake and over time the success rate will improve. This is just the beginning of the AI related layoffs and it’s well past the time for us to plan accordingly both on individual and communal levels.
Sickening. I had my own petty reasons to distrust Oracle but this takes the cake.
It's not surprising this happens as the comments show people on here have no clue how the reality they live in works. Oracle doesn't need customers They have your tax money, no questions asked. It's literally a CIA founded company.So that they could do illegal things that the government regulations don't allow them to.Your government doesn't care about you.
Oracle hasn’t had customers for years - they have hostages. The customer lock in on the main Oracle database products is that tight (and the product is that good, apparently).
So no surprise that they treat everything as a “how much $ can we get out of you today?” situation.
I have a friend (PC) who worked on contract for Novartis USA a few years ago. PC was in IT strategic sourcing and contracts. He and another FTE manager were both disgusted with Oracle--'intransigent'--and through various ways, and with management approval, gradually got rid of Oracle not only in the US but later global Novartis took the same tack. Year 1 loss to Oracle was close to a billion--14 years ago.
It’s an early but inevitable manifestation of the AI-redundancy phenomenon that Andrew Yang refers to as « The Fuckening. »
I’m not even vaguely attached to the tech industry and even I know this discussion has been happening for at least a decade. I’m not sure why this is somehow shocking or unpredictable. I mean Elon Musk recently predicted that human physicians will be mostly out of work in ten years so how are people in jobs that are obviously and easily performed by AI surprised?
I was laid off from my job two weeks ago after my position was eliminated. In my case, it was via a Teams meeting with my incompetent manager and an HR representative. I think I would have rather been let go via email than have to sit through a manager I did not respect stiffly reading a prepared script.
Sorry to hear Jim
This happened to people in his first term. Grants that focused on healthcare for low income Americans were cut almost immediately.
wild to see oracle cut 30k by email the same day they reported 95% jump in net income. this is exactly what the q1 2026 data showed, 55% of companies citing ai as the driver but the financials don't suggest distress at all
As a retired labor/employment lawyer, you've done a really good job of explaining their rights. The extra time for people over 40 is often forgotten. Severence contracts can be voided if you don't provide for that.
This is beyond devastating! I have a three year old. When is my company going to do this to me?! Why are we allowing these data centers to be built. Our country has gone insane! 😣
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